Crash & Burn for Caleb · PACKERSHOME

Lvgx3
Registered Topic Starter

6 months ago

The Colts did it twice, in '97 they tanked at 3-13 after making the playoffs the previous year & drafted peyton manning. Then, in 2011, after winning the division the previoud year, they famously tanked at 2-14 (remember "Suck for Luck"?). & drafted Andrew Luck, both were 1st overall picks, both were back in the playoffs the following year. Sadly, Jordan Love came out of college & the knocks on him were poor accuracy, especially on the long ball, & slow to read coverages. 4 years of grooming later, & nothing has changed.

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dhazer
Veteran Member

6 months ago

The Colts did it twice, in '97 they tanked at 3-13 after making the playoffs the previous year & drafted Peyton manning. Then, in 2011, after winning the division the previous year, they famously tanked at 2-14 (remember "Suck for Luck"?). & drafted Andrew Luck, both were 1st overall picks, and both were back in the playoffs the following year. Sadly, Jordan Love came out of college & the knocks on him were poor accuracy, especially on the long ball, and slow-to-read coverages. 4 years of grooming later, & nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by: Lvgx3

Ummmm I don't want this kid his ego is huge and as you have seen he has been crashing and burning lately lol. But to be honest I would rather have the kid from UNC or even Mcarthy from Michigan. But no matter what our 1st pick needs to be an o-lineman and yes I said that lol. Also, the section I bolded in your comment is exactly what Williams is doing now. To me, he is a Jordon Love 2.0.

Looking at his stats he flourishes against far weaker teams but when it comes to big games he doesn't show up. Against ND 1 TD to 3 ints and against Utah 1 rushing TD. But the surprising stat I see is he takes a lot of sacks, in his last 4 games he has taken 17 sacks.

Actually, I find this very interesting oh the Heisman watch he dropped all the way down to #10 with McCarthy and Penix Jr topping it all, in fact he is the 9th ranked qb tied with the kid from Alabama. Now don't kill me for this but I just don't think we will ever have a black QB excel in green bay, probably the weather factor who knows but we like our big slow white boy qbs lol. So I say grab McCarthy if we have a shot but then again o-line would be nice maybe trade back a few spots and grab the top o-lineman and grab Williams in the 2nd lol

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 months ago

Drake Maye will be a better NFL QB.

umair_010
Rookie

6 months ago

You can't really evaluate Love right now. The coaching is trash. This reminds me of the bears to be honest. Won't matter who is under center. Heck even Rodgers didn't play well last season and now we know why.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

6 months ago

Originally Posted by: Lvgx3

Please post Peyton Mannings stats his 1st year .
How many wins did The Colts have Peytons rookie season?

The Colts sure as he'll didn't make the playoffs his 1st year as a starter.
Pretty bold for your 1st post in this forum.

How many SB appearances did Luck have?

How many wins did Aaron Rodgers have His 1st year as a starter ?

He took over a team that had been to The NFC Championship game the year before.

I'll wait for your answers to my questions.

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beast
Select Member

6 months ago

The Colts sure as he'll didn't make the playoffs his 1st year as a starter.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

I'm just trying to win a game

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 months ago

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Whoa, whoa, calm down there little buckeye.

You know the stats. Share them and educate the newcomer with some information! Maybe you can bring a different perspective to them? 🤷

beast
Select Member

6 months ago

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Yes absolutely, the OL needs improving no matter whom is in the backfield.

Also, I haven't looked into draft QBs much, but I find it interesting that the Pac-12 has so many darn highly rated QBs in this draft.

That's made me wonder if the QBs are good, or if the Pac-12 coverage is just horrible making the many QBs look good.

I don't have the answer.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 months ago

Originally Posted by: dhazer

I think Caleb has the game that accels in college. I'm not seeing much that encourages me he'll have equal or better success in the NFL.

Drake Maye on the other hand. I'm higher on him.

I was also higher on Stroud than Young, and Richardson than Levis so hell do I know.

dhazer
Veteran Member

6 months ago

#10

Originally Posted by: umair_010

Ummmm Rodgers was back to back MVPs under MLF wasn't he?

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

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